0:02 Today we want to hear two brothers. First, Bobby uh McDonald, who is an elder along with Sandeep and Jeremy in a church 0:21 in California. It's very interesting how this church come together. They've been there for some years. And when they began, they began in Sandeep's house, just like our 0:40 church started in our house. Uh I think 6 7 years ago, was it? 7 years ago. In their home and in Sandeep's home and then there were a number of people, a lot of American people as well. And 0:58 then Sandeep began to preach what is almost not preached in America, that women must veil their heads, cover their heads when they pray or prophesy. And half the church walked out. 1:16 Not immediately. They never turned up. Simple thing like that. Because the women, I'm sure, were offended cuz they don't veil their heads. So, I told Sandeep, "Those women were honest. When they did not veil their 1:34 heads, they're saying, 'I'm the boss. And uh that's why I don't veil my head.' And they proved it by pulling their husbands going out of the church." Anyway, that's a message which is not preached in the United States except in some 1:52 Mennonite Amish groups who are not even born again. And that is in a very legalistic way. It's a It's amazing thing to be able to preach truth in a godly way and not in a legalistic way. See, we don't force a person to veil 2:07 their heads. I say, I assume when I see a sister not veiling her head, I assume she's ignorant, not she's rebellious. I'll never assume she's rebellious. She's ignorant. So, we merciful. But, what I say is that um They say, "Well, we don't veil that in 2:26 where we go." I say, "When you go to a house where they take off their slippers or shoes when walking into the house, you don't argue with the owner of that house, I don't take off my shoes in my house. If you're a decent person, you'll take 2:38 off your shoes and go in. And I say, "If you can show that much courtesy when you go to somebody's home to take off your shoes for a little while, maybe 1 hour, 2 hours, I say, "When you go to a church where they veil their heads, why can't you 2:52 sisters veil your head for 1 or 2 hours? It's an arrogance. I do it my way." And I found that people They people who have that arrogant spirit, God resists the arrogant and proud. Anyway, what happened is half the church left, and then God brought others 3:08 in. Now, they have 10 nationalities there, and God has brought different people. So, I I told Sandeep, "You're a son after my own heart. That's the type of church we want where we preach the smallest things in God's word. 3:20 And even as Jesus said, "If you teach what is the smallest thing in God's word, you'll be great in the kingdom of heaven. But, if you ignore it, it's unimportant." So, he's got a wonderful team of young people. They're all 3:31 in their early 30s when they became elders. Now, a lot of people think you got to wait till you're 40 or 50 before you become an elder. Do you know on the day of Pentecost, every one of those apostles were below 35. Because Jesus was like a rabbi, and he 3:48 all all his disciples would be younger than him. He was 30, and I think Peter may have been just close to 30 and John may have been 27. And they were all younger than 30. Not one of them had any gray in their hair or beard or anything. 4:04 And they were apostles, not just elders. And they were less than 35 years old. I know when he and I began, he was 34 and I was 35. 35 and a half, he was 34 and a half. So, we don't have to wait till 4:21 uh if particularly if God saves you when before you're 20 years old, you've got 10 years in which you can really grow up to be a very effective servant of God if you study the word. And I feel there are a lot of young brothers sitting in our church 4:41 whom God could have raised up to be prophets and apostles, but they are failing God completely because they don't give themselves to the study of the word in their single days. They're always looking around whom to marry. 4:55 Well, God will never make you a prophet or an apostle if that's what you're looking for. God needs a lot of young people in India and I praise God for these two examples who are in their 30s and they're outstanding elders. 5:07 I've heard their messages. God has blessed them immensely. And I praise God and I pray that we'll have more and more young people like that who study the word, who are godly and humble, and who can work with others to build the church. 5:23 Thank you, Bobby. Yeah, looking back, we have so many testimonies of how God's protected us, our church. We can look back and in the middle of a lot of the things we've seen pretty difficult, but when we look back, we can honestly say 5:37 from our hearts he did everything perfectly. He does everything well and we see how he's protected us and put different filters to uh keep the the the wrong out of the church and bring in the right people. We are not after quantity, 5:50 we want quality. A pure church is what we're after and we see that God's really helped us. We can't do it in our own wisdom. A lot of things come up that we have no idea how to handle what to do, but he's always been there and always 6:00 given the wisdom and uh provided the help that we needed in the grace and protection. So, we really praise God. Um thankful to be out here this weekend and for this conference. I'm really just it's a joy. Um NCCF, we're 6:17 we owe a lot to this ministry. Uh we're feeding off of the teachings by brother Zach and the sermons. We go through series and we're growing uh a lot. And so, we feel uh as our brother Jeremy said yesterday, we're in the a very large debt to God for this 6:32 ministry. And the way we want to pay back our debt is to join in the building of the ark. We want to join in the work and so that's our burden. So, uh we're the theme of this conference, what God has prepared for those who love him, 6:44 uh we're kind of having the mind of what God's in the done for us in the new covenant. I wanted to share specifically about one thing, which is victory over sin. And uh we can turn to that familiar verse, Romans 6:14. This something that 7:02 was not in the old covenant. Romans 6:14, "Sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace." So, we're not under the old covenant under the law anymore, but we're under grace. And so, that's the reason that 7:16 sin doesn't have to be master over us. So, I wanted to share four ways that the new covenant truths and what God has done in the new covenant has helped me to fight sin. I think every sincere Christian has a burden on their heart 7:29 they want to take sin seriously. They want to fight sin, so they fight even before they have much knowledge. If if it's like a right when a baby's born, it's screaming. And so, even from day one the Christian should be fighting 7:40 sin. Uh they might not know all of how to do it yet or much wisdom, but that that's the burden. And so the four things that laid God laid on my heart in the way that the new covenant has helped me. The first one is that God's made my 7:53 fight very clear uh of what it is and it's to fight my own sin inside of me. The The Bible calls us soldiers. And what are we fighting? What's our What's our battle? God wants us to fight something. He's always wanted soldiers. 8:08 And he doesn't want soldiers running into a pitch-black swinging around who who knows what uh hitting who knows if they're even hitting the right enemy. But he wants to know what we're fight He wants us to know what we're fighting. And in the old covenant 8:23 they were fighting things outside of them. Slay the Canaanites. Slay the animals, put them on the altar on the altar. Slay the adulterous woman, put her outside the camp. But in the new covenant, it's totally different. Romans 8:35 12:1, present your your bodies a living sacrifice. Slay yourself, your own will. So it went from outside to inside. Slay everybody else, now slay me in the the new covenant. I used to have a question, what is the emphasis uh before getting 8:50 really good teaching and having a guidance on what the the new covenant was and how God wanted me to live my life practically in a practical way. I knew that I should be working on fighting sin, but I really didn't really know 9:01 what's the emphasis on it that God wants me to have. How hard should I fight? And the God has made it so clear to me. I have a full confidence that sin is I want God wants me to fight that with everything I have. And Hebrews 12:4 says, "You have not yet 9:17 resisted to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin." How hard does what God want me to the fight to fight against my sin? To the point of shedding my own blood. That's how hard. So it's pretty clear. Uh God's 9:28 burden for me is to fight my sin. One time I did a little exercise. I just wanted to see what's the emphasis that God had has in in word. So I went through all the epistles and I just pointed to random verses. Uh I don't do 9:39 that very often, but I just pointed to random verses and I write down the topic. What is this verse about? What's that verse about? And after a while, after 15 minutes or something, it started to become clear. God over through the 9:51 the all the epistles in the New Testament, he's saying, "Live a godly life. Seek for a godly life." Um and so to to fight sin, as we heard yesterday, the goal isn't to fight sin itself. That's not the goal in itself, but as we heard yesterday, 10:05 to get through the veil. My get through the veil to the presence of God. Uh there's no shortcuts to get into God's presence. There's only one way and it hurts, but it's the the right way and that's through to fight my sin. 10:19 The second point uh is that that God the way God helps me in the new covenant is he makes me mourn over my sin to make me genuinely sorry for it when I see what it did to him. I used to judge the success of my walk uh with God 10:35 by how disciplined am I? Am I sticking to my schedule? And I feel pretty bad if I got off the schedule. If I'm on it, I feel pretty good about myself. Um but now I judge it very differently and that's am I mourning over my sin? What is my attitude towards 10:47 my sin? That's how I can tell if I'm walking with God. He uh Zechariah 12:10 It's a very moving verse about what's God's going to do in the new covenant when he pours out his spirit into us. 11:05 Says this in 12 10, "The spirit of grace and supplication I I will pour it out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and supplication, so they will look on me whom they have pierced. And 11:18 they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son. They will weep bitterly over him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn." It's It's like God is saying uh "You're not going to be um mourning over your problems. Your 11:38 biggest problem now is your sin because you pierced Jesus with it. That's your biggest problem now. It's like a husband and wife you don't judge your relationship by is the man making a lot of money? Is the wife cleaning the house 11:50 really well? You judge it by how are they treating each other? Are they really sorry when they hurt each other? Are they loving each other? How do they speak to each other? And so uh I see that I want I when I I want my 12:02 eyes open to what I did to God, to my sin and to have more revelation on that. Lord, show me my sin. Let me know something of how much I owe. We sing that song. And one of the things that I really moved me that I heard from uh Brother 12:17 Zac say before was in the time of Noah and during the flood uh after the flood and there it said that God placed a a bow in the sky. It doesn't say rainbow, it says bow. That's the word there. And when you think of a bow 12:33 it's you know, like a bow and arrow. So, the bow is aiming is aiming upwards. And God was saying, "I just slayed all the wickedness of the earth to take care of the problem, but this is not of unrighteousness, but that's not the 12:48 permanent solution. I'm going to slay myself next. I'm going to pierce my own heart with an arrow and I'm providing the bow and the arrow he didn't put arrow there because the arrow was already here, which is my sin. And he's going to pierce his heart and 13:00 that's what he did when Jesus came. And God slayed himself first for me. He crushed his son and he pierced his own heart. It hurt him to sacrifice his son. But now we have the privilege of slaying ourself for him. And uh if I take sin not seriously, even the 13:15 small sins, I I I've seen that it can be well, I'm going to heaven anyways. Well, maybe it's not that good big of a deal. I don't I don't want to meditate too much much and get discouraged whether this is much of a sin or not, but um 13:27 that's like having the attitude of it's just another thorn in Jesus crown, you know, he's got a lot of thorns in there already. They're hurting him, sure, but you know, it's just one more. Um and so I never want to uh I never want to have that 13:40 flippant attitude towards sin. I want to mourn over my sin and say, "Lord, this is has cost you, so I want to give you something I want of myself." For example, um uh one thing that it could be small that maybe a lot of us 13:54 men can overlook. We're so happy to have fellowship in the church. Uh we greet each other with hugs and we uh eagerly listen patiently to the testimonies of others. Then when we get home, our kids come up to us and want to 14:09 speak to us, sorry, I don't have time. Uh my wife calls me, I eagerly answer from a brother maybe I press ignore or uh I don't have time. Sorry, honey, I got to go. Um that's partiality. Is that Is that the spirit of God? To um So I I mean, it 14:25 may seem like a small thing. I I'm not outwardly hurting them, but it's some some small uh un-Christ-likeness. That's not like Jesus there. Am I going to take it seriously? And so I see I want to I want to see this sin is like David said, this sin my 14:42 sin is against you. Even if I've sinned towards others, it's really towards you. This is what killed you. The third thing was that God promises the help to overcome my sin. I used to have a a fear. I know there are a lot of promises in 14:58 the Bible, but I feared uh because I knew that along with the promises there's requirements, even in the New Testament. There's a lot of good promises there that we can claim, but there's requirements that go along with 15:09 them. So here's a question, if there's promises but how how can I have faith if there's also requirements? Like what if I can't keep the requirement? Like uh there's so many promises in the Bible, train up the children in the way should 15:24 they should go and there when they're old they won't depart from it. How can I claim that requirement? I don't know if I'm even doing a good good job raising my children. Uh, and in the new covenant God says, "I'm going to help you keep that 15:36 requirement. So, you don't need to fear. You can claim the promise because I'll be with you." Uh, and so that changes everything to me. I used to think of the only difference between the old covenant and the new covenant was how we get our 15:47 commandments. Oh, we had them written down before, now we have the Holy Spirit, so he's going to tell us what to do at every moment. But, that's a very incomplete picture. The uh, it's the Holy Spirit is also helping us. Uh, if 16:00 and if if an elephant went up to a mouse and said, "Pull that 10,000 lb car." The mouse would probably start fearing and to say, "I can't like, that's what you asking me to do." But, if the elephant said, "Well, here's a a yoke. There's a 16:13 big neck over here for me and there's a small neck for you. We'll join together under the yoke and I'll help you pull the car. You have to pull it." Then the mouse said, "Okay, I'm not sure I'm not sure why you having me pull it. I guess 16:24 you're going to be doing it pretty much, but I'll I'll join you." Uh, but the elephant wants to be with the mouse. And so, I see that's the beauty of what God's done for us is he doesn't need us, but he that's the what the path that he said cuz he wants to be 16:35 with us. So, it's uh, it's really a joy to walk in in practical life with God seeing his help uh, in reality. For example, if somebody calls me or comes up to me, my door, maybe it's a family member or co-worker, and they they're just angry 16:52 at me. They start lashing out at me, ridiculing me, uh, blaming me for things that I didn't do. And I'm trying to make the peace, but they're just going on and on and on. And pretty soon it start we start feeling uh, our temper starts to What is this 17:06 person doing? Um, we start to be disturbed in our heart. God is with us. He's He can be there with us in the moment. We can withdraw from that room in our hearts. We and physical presence we can stay there but we can go to a secret room 17:22 with Jesus in our heart and say Lord, this is hard right now. I'm struggling. You need to help me carry this. Uh Please give me comfort. Give me wisdom on how to respond but most of all I don't want to sin. Please help me not to 17:34 sin in this. Help me to love them. Please forgive them for this. Uh the this person hates me but you love me. So it's not going to disturb me. We can all this can happen while we're getting yelled at. It's a beautiful thing to have a secret 17:47 life with Jesus in our heart. Um so he's there to help us and I I used to think that all my problems sprung from what I don't have. I don't have the gift for this. I don't have the strength for that. Uh I just wasn't born with this. I wasn't 17:59 taught this. But I see my problems don't spring from what I don't have. It's not seeing what I do have. That's my problem. And that's God with me all the time. That's what I want to do. I want to always see God's presence with me. 18:10 He's the help. And then the last point of the way that the new covenant has helped me fight my sin is by showing the beauty of Jesus' life as a forerunner. It's really moved me just see seeing Jesus' life in these ways how he suffered quietly. 18:24 Uh seeing how he handled the situations. I love looking There's nothing more stirring than seeing how Jesus lived in the Bible. Um and meditating on his life. One of the things that I've heard frequently from brother Zach over the 18:38 past year or so is that Jesus submitted to imperfect parents. And I was meditating on that and because of that I believe Jesus was spanked cuz he was perfect but his parents weren't. And just like any imperfect parents they probably got 18:53 angry over something that they shouldn't have been angry over. And so Jesus I just picture Jesus God training Jesus by submitting to suffering for a sin he didn't do. Uh or it wasn't Maybe Joseph loved money and Jesus knocked over a pot 19:07 just because he was the son of God doesn't mean he he didn't have accidents. He was like us. So he he knocked over an expensive pot and it wasn't a sin, but it was an accident and maybe Joseph got mad and spanked Jesus and put him in the corner and Jesus was 19:20 sitting there quietly submitting and he was and God his father was speaking to him, "I'm training you for what's coming uh to suffer for sins that weren't yours." And so it makes me when I see that and I'm in that situation somebody's yelling 19:33 at me, I see Jesus sitting there in the corner suffering and it strengthens me. Uh it's so beautiful to to look at Jesus' life and say, "I can join in this with you. I can partake of your sufferings. I can give you I want to 19:44 give you something back, Lord. You did so much for me. I can I can have a privilege of suffering in some way like you. It's such a beautiful thing." I don't I would feel a lot of regret if God answered every one of my prayers up 19:57 till now. Uh and cuz most of them have been, Lord, remove this problem right now. And uh to to get and stand before God on the last day and have him say, "Yeah, you made it to heaven. I took away all your problems. You you had a pretty 20:11 comfortable life and you'll have a pretty comfortable eternity, but you like we heard, you can't sing the song. You didn't learn to sing the song like I wanted you to. You're going to miss out on that. Um you know, you you'll you'll be okay, 20:24 but you you didn't really join me. Your life didn't produce too much glory for me. Uh I would have a lot of regret. So, it's a privilege to suffer for Jesus and to to say, "I want to do give you something. I can and he's not called me 20:38 to be a martyr as far as I know not today up to this point, maybe in the future, but even if I'm never a martyr, I can at least I want at least want to give something back to Jesus back to God for what he did for me." And uh so I see that 20:49 suffering and trying not to sin uh in the midst of that temptation is something small that we can do just like Jesus following in his footsteps. So, praise God for the the word that he's given us of Jesus' life and the the stir 21:01 what he's given us in the new covenant all these things to help us fight our sin with my our own sin which is our biggest problem Not what's outside of us, but uh what's inside of us. Praise God. So, I want to clarify, and I think I'm right 21:15 in this, that when Bobby spoke about a co-worker yelling at him, it was not a co-worker in the church. It was a co-worker in his office, I'm sure. Uh I thought of what he said about this new song, you know. Do you know that 21:33 in heaven everyone will sing the song, "You were slain, and you redeemed us." You read that in Revelation 5. "And made us kings and priests to God." Every redeemed child of God will sing that. But there's another song in heaven, 21:52 which not everybody can sing. In Revelation 14, it says, "And they sang a new song." Verse 3. They sang a new song. And And that It says in I don't know whether 22:12 you notice this. Sometimes you read the Bible and you don't notice it. The song everybody sings is in Revelation 5, but this one it says, Revelation 14, 5, "There's a new song which only the 144,000 could sing. No one could 22:31 learn the song." They see in heaven it's not a question of tune. Here we worry about tune and uh very excited about it, raise your hand, and all that. There in heaven it's not tune. Song means it comes out of your heart. 22:47 That's what God listens to in heaven. And in heaven there's some people who could not say this from their heart. They kept themselves pure. First of all, in verse 3, they were redeemed from the earth means they were lifted up from earthly things. That's 23:04 the last part of verse three. Not everybody can sing that song because some believers spend all their time occupied with earthly things. More promotion, more money, more this, more comfort, all kinds of things. But these were 23:16 purchased from the earth. They were not defiled with Babylon the harlot and all her daughters. They kept themselves pure from spiritual adultery and harlotry. They did not have anything to do with corrupt Babylonian Christianity. 23:36 And they followed the lamb wherever he went. And verse five, no lie was found in their mouth. That is their song. And you can only learn it on this earth before you go. And it's a very small number. 23:56 There's a great multitude you read in Revelation 7 who sing the song of being forgiven, but but there's a very small number. So there's a song many of us will not be able to sing in heaven. But you have the opportunity in the next 24:11 few years to learn it. It's a song that we learn in daily life in our home. You just heard Bobby speak about how in times of temptation he thinks of how Jesus sat at home in the corner in the house. You heard me say that yesterday. 24:28 The difference between our church and other churches is we concentrate on the first 30 years of Jesus' life. They concentrate on the last three and a half years ministry and miracles and this and that and going here, going 24:38 there. And I say we concentrate on the first 30 years so that when we come to the end of our life and we stand before the Lord and we come one by one to him, he can say to us exactly what he said to Jesus at the end of 30 24:57 years, "I am well pleased with you." And you look at that brother to whom God is saying that, and he never preached a sermon, he never traveled to any country to preach the gospel, he was not invited here and there to preach, and he was not very 25:15 outstanding in the church also. People sort of looked down upon him maybe because he was not very gifted, not very intellectual. He was not one of the upper-class people, but in his daily life, he followed Jesus, he was patient 25:28 towards his wife and children, and lived a godly life at home and in his office. He didn't get so many promotions, but he lived a godly life. And there he is in the front of many people. And many CFC people are at the back, and 25:41 this person comes up, and the Lord says, "I'm well pleased with you." And you wonder, "What did he do?" He was faithful. Like Jesus was for 30 years, that the Father could say about him, "I'm well pleased." It's very important to understand that. 25:55 There's one thing I notice about this church, NCF, as far as I know, it's about perhaps about the only church in CFC that's doing this. Maybe there are more churches doing it now. They they have weekly Bible studies and in 26:11 their church, and what they do is they go through all of them together, basic Christian teachings, which is a series in our website, foundational biblical truths, another video series in our website, and all that Jesus taught, 26:28 and through the Bible, and privately many of them go through verse by verse as well. So, all that Bible study material they have there, which have we have on our website, that's what they concentrate on. And so, there's a sort of a 26:46 a good foundation being laid for everyone in that church, so that everyone in the church gets a good foundational teaching now. Many people are don't take that seriously. But see the quality of people that are produced in such churches, pretty 27:02 shallow. I want to show you a verse in Deuteronomy. And Deuteronomy chapter 22. These Old Testament laws had a spiritual truth in the New Testament. Deuteronomy 22:9. 27:25 You shall not sow your vineyard with two kinds of seed. Otherwise, all the produce of the seed which you have sown will be defiled. There are very, very few churches who 27:44 follow that. They try to be broad-minded. And they say, "Well, we must sow all types of seed not just see the end result in the quality of people in that church." I'm not saying you got to listen only to one person, but listen to people who are 28:01 preaching the same thing and overcoming life, a godly family life. Humility, patience, and goodness, and forgiving everybody. I don't care who's preaching it. It doesn't doesn't have to be Zac Poonen, but whoever preaches the seed is not a 28:15 person. The particular seed is the particular doctrine. And so, if you allow all types of different people to preach, I always say, "I want to know what what this guy's family life is like before I invite him to preach." 28:28 You read so many books by people. There are many some I'm sorry, some of our CFC churches, they encourage people to read all types of books. I said, "Do you know anything about the family life of the man who wrote that book?" No, it 28:38 doesn't matter. It doesn't matter? Your church will be like that. Uh do you know anything about how he brought up his children? Oh, that's not important. What? Are you an Old Covenant person that like Samuel it didn't matter how he brought 28:50 up his children so long as he preached the right thing? I'm sorry, I don't agree with that. In the new covenant it says a man cannot be an elder if he hasn't brought up his children properly. How in the world can you write a book? 29:00 But yet I find so many people who imagine that they've understood the new covenant, elders, they don't take it seriously what they're reading. They don't think who is this man speaking? Let me know how he lived with his wife. Let me know how he brought up 29:14 his children. They don't take that seriously and you see the result of that maybe the brother himself is good, but see the church he produces. It'll be pretty shallow. So I praise God for those who are careful about the seed that is being 29:29 sown. It may be from 10 different speakers, it's okay, or 10 different authors, fine, but make sure the seed is a godly seed that is being sown in the church. And I praise God that this church which is called New Covenant Christian Fellowship 29:43 where the elders are Sandeep and Jeremy and Bobby are following that in Santosh and Ajay and all who are doing that in California, too, and I praise God for that. And the another thing both these churches do is memorize scripture. Every 29:58 Sunday they have a verse. The children memorize it, the adults memorize it. That's a tremendously good habit. I would encourage all of you to do it. And uh even if 90% don't remember it, 10% remember it, it's worth it. Do you 30:13 think that all the people agree with everything you preach? I say if 10% get what we preach, that's good. So, that's another thing I would encourage you. Verses, don't not huge verses, just short important verses. And alternate between a a promise and a 30:29 command, a promise and a command. Alternate. It's a very good habit. It'll have have long-term effects especially on your children. So, let's keep that in mind. So, now we're going to hear, I've asked brother Ratnakumar 30:45 who is been with CFC since 1983 or so. 35 years and one unique thing about him, God gave him a tremendous burden to spread literature in Tamil Nadu. And he has translated more books. There are more books of mine in Tamil than in 31:05 English. He is sometimes listen to him something on tape and copied it down and translated it and um God's given him an amazing burden. I never asked him to get into this ministry. We don't ask people to get into a ministry. 31:22 They we see a they have a burden. If God hasn't given a burden, it's no use. God gave him a burden. And therefore he did it better than if I appointed somebody, "Hey, you take care of literature." And it's amazing how many people if 31:36 there's a if many people see that we have more churches in Tamil Nadu than any other state in India. And part of the reason, I'll tell you, part of the reason is because of this literature ministry. And in other states, people have not had 31:50 that burden for literature ministry until more recently. And that's what's produced this result because literature is a tremendous tool. That's how the communists got many parts of Europe through literature. So, I thank God for this brother who works 32:09 day and night and uh is always and travels long distances get any in all our English books are printed by him. If you see a design on an English every single English book cover design is designed by him. 32:28 I praise God for this brother who's done an amazing ministry. It's mostly hidden. His reward will come when Christ comes again. We have different ministries. Some people are called to be preachers, prophets, teachers. Some people are 32:40 called to literature ministry. So, brother Ratnakumar, will you please come forward and Michael can translate for him. 1 John chapter 5 verse 3. Um 1 John chapter 5. More than in English 33:00 it you know, more than Tamil, the English is very nice. It says um for this is the love of God that we keep his commandments. That is either way they would be humble. I am already I can really take a look at them. This 33:18 is the love of God. Such a command and such a challenging word. I I'm sorry I don't I feel a little bit more command over there or you got to wait. This is the word which comes with that powerful commandment. This is the love 33:35 of God that we keep his commandments. In the same hotel in the conference in the waiting area. You know what God has prepared for those who love him. The theme I want to I think I'm going to relate to you and I'm going to be with 33:51 you again. I want to speak relating to the theme what God has prepared for us for those who love him. Um Yeah, John maybe you want to vary very under uh what do you mean by basically and some they would be basically basically they would basically get 34:09 John normally talks about loving one another and loving God. But and the William and the William and the William He received a commandment from the master that is going to all the world and preach the gospel to and make disciples and baptize them and 34:27 teach all the commandments what I taught you. He received the commandments in such a way that he obeyed it. He obeyed that commandment. And all the 11 disciples they obeyed the commandment in what basis, you know? 34:47 The basis of love for God. What God has prepared for those who love him. Such a passion and love for God that can do many wonders in our life and ministry. That's what I I have the burden of to share with 35:06 regarding the ministry of literature. And in in India, maybe all around the world. They have seen the love of Christ more than what we have seen through the Bible. They saw the literally how 35:25 Jesus suffered for the sinners. And when they when he was hanging on the cross there were some disciples nearer to him. And some disciples were far away standing behind him. But whatever it is, they witnessed how much he loved the 35:43 love of the world and he gave his life. And they were so amazed about this the Calvary's love. That's what gripped the heart of the disciples. Those who were so close to him. So after 3 days he after resurrected 36:02 and he when when he met the disciples the wound was just now healed and it was with stripes. He showed them the stripes and said and commanded go into all the world and preach the gospel. 36:22 They were so broken in their in their heart. It is a it is a very first love that gripped the heart and they out of love for God they took the commandment for them. All the 11 disciples all the 11 36:43 disciples they were gripped by the love of God and they took the commandment for them and they went into all the world they filled the continents all the five continents with the gospel of Christ. 37:01 It's amazing thing that even touched my heart. It's a wonderful way that they do the ministry out of the love for God and God gave them he prepared them that ministry 37:19 and he said he never gave any money to them. Go into all the world I I I will give you some few lakhs or I'll arrange some you know ATM service something like that you can draw in my name. He never said like that. 37:37 The nowadays the missionary organization how many people they want the support of the financial support from back of them. No. He said only one promise till to the end of the world 37:56 I will be with you with you. That was so enough for them. They never dependent on on anything they just dependent on God. When Jesus came as a missionary he was sent by God he all the time said only one thing 38:15 my father is with me. That is enough. They were heard it when he was with the disciples all the time he was mentioning that my father is with me. So, they trusted Jesus Jesus' word. And uh they also seen that he's resurrected now. 38:34 And also seen that the the the great love that set in their heart. And that urged him urged him to go into all the world. I don't know what age they would be. Maybe Peter maybe 35 or 40 years old. Maybe he could get married. 38:52 Everyone went into all the world and did a fantastic ministry. That is all because of the supremely loved God. That's the most essential thing we must keep it in our heart. 39:09 I say it for all all the young people to challenge them. And it was Paul said the love of God constrains us. Nothing else. We should not be constrained to do 39:28 something for getting fame, getting money, or getting approval of some men, or even getting approval of the COC or anything like that. It is only the love of God should fill our heart and constrain us to do something for us to do something 39:46 for God. That's what happened to me when I was born again in 1968 when I was studying in 10th standard. I remember that the conversion under a tamarind tree 40:04 I was weeping and weeping and weeping and confessing all my sins. Lord, could you love me that such a worst sinner like me? What a great sacrifice you have done for me. And your love is so great. And I wept and wept and wept. I don't 40:22 know, maybe one 1 and 1/2 hours under the tamarind tree. And what happened, you know? Uh I was saved and and Jesus was I received Jesus in my heart. The very next day I started speaking to my friends. 40:41 For all the we call it the cigarette friends. We gather up few young people with the cigarettes and smoke and my family is very godly family and they very disciplined family. But even then my sin is very worse. And I did everything 40:59 in a hidden way that all the sins. So, I start to started speaking about Jesus to the way friends. They gave me the cigarette. I I told them, "No. I have become a child of God now." They all laughed and mocked, "Yesterday you 41:18 took the cigarette from me. But now you say the child of God." And then I continued to say that, "You all all must become the child of God." And they're all Hindu Hindu people and other group of my friends. God has changed changed my life. 41:36 So, the from the very first day the conversion of my first day the next day I the love of love of God can constrain me to such an extent that I can share the gospel to to to them. And what happened under from this 1968 41:58 onwards 1960 one till then I was defeated in my secret life. I was defeated with my No adultery, no uh robbery, anything I'll say, but inside I was so defeated. 42:18 And I asked my pastor with with great sorrow I asked him Father, pastor I'm so defeated. I quickly become angry. Lust comes in my heart. What should I do, brother? Uh can you help me? He said 42:38 as long as we are in the world, we have to be like that. Then what What What is the solution? Yes, there's a solution. When Christ comes in a wink of an eye, we will be transformed. And till till then can I have some water? 43:05 Thank you. He said, "Till then you have to be like that." Then I was greatly relieved. Okay, then 43:24 maybe this is the right way to go. But 1981, till then it was a break of about 12 years. I lived a defeated life, but there was a great longing in my heart that only this is the thing I want to grow more in like you. 43:43 And then show me the the greater way that I can show my love to you and obey the word of God and help me to be victorious in every I was sent out from my house when I was when I came to the ministry in 1981 with my 44:03 first daughter, Salome. She was 9 months old. At that time I I was with one one pastor one church. That is a one G S F church. And I was there 1981. 44:22 The very first 1981 May March I came out in 1981 May. That chief pastor Gladly he spoke about the victory over sin. And he say we are awaiting him in him is to walk like him. That really challenged my heart. It was not a 44:42 It was not a heavy word for me. It was an occasion that I could you know, receive the word and enjoy the gospel. So I I I was closely with him. I He took me with me to Delhi. I stayed with him. But unfortunately he died in the 45:01 few months. Few months. He was only 42 years or 45 years old. He's very godly brother. Before he's he was dying he told me brother I got this victory over sin messages and rending of the veil and the entering into God's presence 45:19 from Zack Poonen cassettes. And he was no more. And then I went to my went to Madurai and I collected all the Zack Poonen books and started reading it. You know, that pastor who was a 45:39 good brother anyway, he gave me the hidden versus part one, part part two, part three, part four and I was so excited and it thrilled my heart to know the truth. And it challenged my heart to walk in the way to become transformed like the image of 45:55 Christ. What a great joy that I've been a saved from the uttermost to the you know, he he took me out from the topmost gutter to the rock of the the topmost place and blessed me with the gospel. And the same year 19 46:15 82 the same year um Bro. Zac was invited to that to our place. And he he came to the GSF um conference. There were 4,000 people were there 46:33 gathered there all over the from the branches. And I used to lead the the songs and everything. And the Bro. Zac came over there. And that time he spoke powerful words for three or four days, I think. 46:51 I was so gripped by that. And then I started translating that cassettes um into the their magazines in the D F F magazine I translated. Um that book 19 83 it was released. 47:10 And that book name is the Muthu Muthu Kuvian. Bringing the lot of you know, the what is the purpose of the Pentecost? How the Pentecost is drifted away from the purpose of God into mere emotions and the speaking in tongues and the gifts of the Holy 47:25 Spirit. The life is neglected. And the such a with a great enthusiasm I translated translated it with the many you know, subheadings. That pastor told me that other pastors are angry with that subheading. Please remove that 47:45 subheading. You put that that they are that that denomination all the things are like that in the subheading and they are offended. And I I was I used to come to the conference from 1980 to onwards. I think that the first 48:04 conference in in 42 Costa Square. This first conference 82 or maybe 81. 83 Ah, yes. So, I I came to that conference and um 48:22 we published that the Muthuvel. And I was in that fellowship. The first printing was the lot of people bought it. And then I was sent out from that GSF. They they said this kind of entering into the new new way of life and 48:41 and the new wine and the new wine skin the churches we don't want that. We want to have the broader way of loving the people and then gathering the people for God. She said in a polite way and asked me to asked me to go away from that the 48:59 church. And then from on from that time onwards in 1982 I translated this Secrets of Victory, Gaining God's Approval, What God Wants You to Be and who is the true disciple of Jesus 49:18 and all those books I started with. And then as brother Zach said, he never asked me to translate anything. It is out of the love for God and what I received from the Lord. From the 10th standard I I got the salvation and spoke about the salvation. 49:35 Then 1981 I got the full gospel and I started speaking the full gospel out of the gratitude to the Lord and the gratitude to the gospel of God. I had a great passion that the gospel of God should reach over all the world. 49:52 At the beginning I was so disappointed a little bit. I thought that this gospel will will make a great revolution and great you know revival in the in the Christian world. But it it was not so. But still God gave the burden and don't 50:10 bother about the reaping. You go on sowing the sowing the word. Sowing the seed. So I translated so many books of exactly that. And then it went on on like that. And 50:28 So I remember about the about the our our books. It's a like a summit, you know, summit. Going going and the standard is going going going going up. When I was translating this through the Bible what is a high standard, what a 50:44 what a clarity with the crystal clear the gospel is so clear. This was presented in this through the Bible. It blessed my heart very much. And then this this this a new book, you know. You know, God's work done in God's ways. 50:59 That was a tremendous blessing to my heart. And it is I believe that everybody every youth every brothers and sisters should read that book. More than the pastors. Pastors they are settled there. It is impossible for them 51:15 to come out from the new wine skin from the old wine skin. But many of us still don't understand the blessing of the new wine and the new wine skin. And um the the the book is God's work done in God's way. The book is full of building up together. 51:32 Building building building the family. Building the brothers and sisters together as a body of Christ. That is the vision that God has given to the church to build as a body of Christ as a one family. Those who are gathered here should be in 51:47 the in the in the the heavenly places the same the same family. The family in heaven and the family on the earth should be as the one family. So, such a great passion to build a fellowship together by the life of God. 52:05 So, full of the word. 254 pages I translated. All the 54 254 words are to build a fellowship to build a fellowship with body of Christ. What a passion, what a you know with the imploring of the pleading that the words are coming from the author. 52:24 It touched my heart so much. I believe that don't think that it is a for the pastors and you try to give the pastors the search for the pastors and to give it to them. Of course, you can give them. But without reading yourself, don't give 52:38 it to others. It is a such a great blessing. And then the you know, the congregation, the club and and the the church What a anointing that Santosh had. I survey the wondrous cross. There's a one song like that, you know. He 52:56 surveyed the cross in such a way that he penetrated into that cross. And he loved the cross and even that in the picture you you can see that the vertical relationship with the Lord should be more than the horizontal relationship with our 53:14 brothers and sisters. He says double the portion of that wooden block needed for that vertical relationship with the God. Otherwise, we would become a club. All the gatherings will become a club club unless we don't have that vertical 53:31 relationship with the Lord fervently burning with the first love of God. I would say that when I was saved 10 standard my love love for the girl growing and burning more and more. Even if I have to live for another 100 years 53:49 it will be permanently growing, burning more and more. It will be burning in my heart. My devotion to Christ never diminished. Whatever that happened in my family or in my in the church or any anywhere else. That is he the cross, you know, the you almost 54:09 read that book. I would say that this is the summit summit of that the litera- literature. That comes up the pinnacle. So I was so blessed. Therefore somebody who would say, you know when I read the book 54:27 till I finish I did not did not drop that book. Likewise, when I started the translation of these two books I did not stop um stop the translation. I was continuing continuing. Therefore I could the with a great longing, with a great love 54:43 for the Lord I I finished the translation. The content is so rich and it blessed my heart. Yeah. In Tamil we have the 58 books. 55:05 And um uh Brother Zack was saying to me that can you say about some miracle what happened in the translation of that books? Huh. I can I can say so many other things, but the first miracle is when Nicodemus came to Jesus 55:23 and he said um God is with you I know we know that and because you you are doing so much wonderful works. But Jesus said whatever the other works you know, opening the eyes of the blind or healing the leper or the raising the 55:40 dead. It's not a great thing. The great miracle is you must be born again. And that is a greater miracle. That's what happened to me. Also, it happened to me in such a way that my life was a transformed. 55:58 Each book when I translate, I'm the first one to read it for six times. Read the book first and then translate and the first proof reading and the second proof reading. It's sometimes even the third proof reading. After it is getting finished, I 56:13 read again the book whether there is any anything as happened as a mistake, I read it again. Almost I have read it six times a book. 58 books into six, you know, how many times I have I have read the books before publishing it. 56:32 That blessed my heart. That healed me. I was a leper. And every area of my life it penetrated as a chemotherapy. Nowadays chemotherapy would kill you, but this chemotherapy gave me life. It gave me life. It flourishing and 56:48 transformed me. In every way in my personal and family and the church. It helped me to value the church so much. Hallelujah. How much I value the church, only God knows. Jesus loved the church and gave himself for the church. 57:08 Yeah. The local church whom which God has given, I should preserve it for as a pure offering to God. I would I would have such a passion and I love the church. And I gave himself gave myself I loved it and I gave myself 57:23 to the church. It's a wonderful thing that the miracle. The miracle is the one who you know, translate and publish the literatures. The miracle is this man, the leper is healed. From head to foot, he is free healed. Hallelujah. 57:42 That's a great thing I would say. And there are other things also. You know, we started the ministry with it, the book ministry, book publishing ministry, the letterpress. Letterpress, you know that. In the each day, one day, 58:10 I have to take the proof for only five five pages or four pages. To print a book means it will take a long time. Then God blessed us in such a way that we moved on to God helped us into more moved on to the city offset press. 58:27 I'm sorry, demi offset press. And from the demi offset press, everything has to be done is a press printing is over. But uh taking to the stitching and then the binding and the so so many other places I have to take it over. 58:40 And then CTP offset presses. So there's a computerized, little bit computerized, it is the work was a little easy. Latest CTP offset press. And then the the latest digital, world class world class press. Maybe they are the world class press in 58:59 the India, number one. I don't know even if it is in Asia. I don't know, I wonder that. They have the 20 acres of the land. You know what happened in this uh uh to take the out our printing to the world class printing, 59:17 the owner, they said, "We are exporters. We print only minimum 20,000 copies. At At minimum 20,000 copies. You won't your order. I went repeatedly two or three times, I think so. Repeatedly they said, "No." He called me 59:35 and I went there. And then then I he said, "What is the manuscript you want to print? How many copies you are going to print?" We want only a 30,000. Sorry, 3,000. "3,000 only?" Yes. Yes, sir. Sorry. And then, "What is the manuscript? Give 59:51 me that." I gave one printed devotion Tamil page. He read that carefully. And after finishing the the whole reading of that page, he called the engineer. He called the called the Ravi engineer. 1:00:10 "This is a good book, I think so. You please print it for them. But they want only 3,000." And we printed. And it's amazingly with a very nice out outlet outlet came. And we paid the amount. The owner said, 1:00:28 "Please, don't come again to the to our press." "This is the first and the last." I was little saddened because many of the books were already for the printing. I wanted to bring it here for the printing. "Please, don't come." 1:00:45 Then um I tried again. I tried again with some books. I showed them not only the English, not only Tamil, we have the English books also. We have Telugu books also. "But we won't print more than the 3,000 copies. 1:01:03 Please, can you print it?" And um um he reluctantly you know, gave the permission. And we printed some books. And after that, when the first print of the Truth of the Bible came, and 1:01:20 he printed he asked me that, only 3,000. Yes, sir, everything is going to be 3,000 only. Then he printed that book. After the printing over and we got the book and we made a payment. I went to the office for another printing. 1:01:38 I went in and he went He called me to the room. He stood up like this. Sir, we were blessed by your work. He said, I was amazed. What What you are saying? See that through the Bible you were Bible it won the world you know, world award. It fetched a 1:01:57 world award through your work. We are blessed. It's the same place where I heard that please don't come again. That is the the same place the owner is standing up, respecting with the good word that 1:02:15 we are blessed by your work. He never allows the people to any customers to go and see the factories. He ordered that manager show our factories to to the sir. And he took me and factories very very very big. 1:02:34 I walk in I walk in it is a very large area of the printing and when there Yeah. And this is also one of the miracle, isn't it? Yeah, I feel that this is also a miracle. The one more miracle is we never lack money. Yes, the first print 1:02:53 all the times the Tamil printing of Bangalore offers offers it. But all the times for anything many of the books are the 13th edition or 14th edition. Um many of many of the books. 1:03:11 But we lack no money. God provided it in a miracle way. Whatever you needed, we never asked any people except the first print they offer. But all the money, everything, God supply. We have a full-time office there and the 1:03:29 two staffs are there. There are many good brothers are there to help us to bring the bundle and a lot of a lot of works are there. There are a lot of brothers are there to help me. Hallelujah. I believe that that is also the one of the miracle. 1:03:48 And you know, I believe that whatever things, you know, the this is a I know God's work done in God's ways. I think the Hudson Taylor quoting that sentence sentence, I think so. 1:04:06 Maybe I I may be wrong. But if God offers it offers that, if you love him, God will prepare something for you, you know, for everyone. We're all the members of the body of Christ. Everyone will offer something, even the small things. 1:04:25 If you love him, do it in a perfect way. And God will bless you bless the church bless others. Yeah. And um the the word says like this, for this is the love of God that we we keep his 1:04:43 commandments and his commandments are not burdensome. See, all these ministries I enjoyed with great joy. I did that. And none of the ministries are burdensome. 95 years old, John says like that. John the gospel 1:05:00 John the apostle says like that. He suffered for the gospel so much, but he says that none of his commandments are burdensome. He only told us to go into all the world and the preach the gospel. We met hardships, of course, 1:05:15 but when we compare with the love of God, nothing is burdensome. The burden of the sin he carried on carried on the the Mount Golgotha. We saw it with our own own eyes. What a love he is. What a burden he carried. When we compare ourselves that burden he 1:05:34 carried for us, nothing is burdensome to us. And this is what I would say that someone will come and ask me, "Oh, this is a tremendous work. This is a hard work." I used to laugh at it laugh in my heart. So, in Tamil, used to say, you know, 1:05:50 "Karumadi irukku kolia endru ketpar." Other The it was the same thing like that. I was happy and nothing is burdensome to me and I was full of grace and full of the Holy Spirit. God fills me every time of my task. And none of his commandments are 1:06:09 burdensome. Either in the victory over sin and walking in his ways, taking up the cross, or doing any ministries, nothing is a burdensome. Hallelujah. We have to triumph it over in our church loudly. None of his commandments are burdensome. 1:06:27 Say hallelujah. Say it strong hallelujah. Hallelujah. Thank you. So, 1:06:53 all over the world people have benefited from the ministry. Every English book has been printed by him. Every edition. And they've gone around the world and today you hear a little bit of what goes behind the scenes. There's a lot of 1:07:12 work. He travels on his motorbike. Sometimes comes back home at 2:30 in the morning. And it's quite a distance. It's not in his hometown. This printing press is um some number of miles away. It's another town that he has to go 1:07:26 there and meet these people and and how God has put him in touch with the latest printing technology and how he's persistent to get the work done. And as you heard, God used other people to help him. But 1:07:45 you know, God has seen these things. In the day of judgment we will get many surprises when we see people we may or may not have thought much of or didn't look much upon how God rewards them in the final day for 1:08:04 faithfully working behind the scenes. I remember his daughter telling me This is Ratnakumar's daughter. Saying he would sometimes she would sometimes see her father translating and she would see him asleep on the chair 1:08:23 with that paper there and the pencil like that or the pen. In the middle of the night. I wonder how many people are serving the Lord like that. He's not paid a salary. He started serving the Lord when he was 1:08:42 around 30 years old. And now he's 65 and he's I have never found anyone who can replace him. I was telling him you've got to train somebody. But you know, I've discovered you can never replace the Apostle Paul. I mean, Timothy can do a pretty good 1:08:59 job, but it won't to the same. And and it you know the thing is when God gives a burden to somebody, this is what you got to see. It's it's a work which cannot be equaled. When you appoint somebody, all right, you're in charge of the music or you're 1:09:16 in charge of the literature or you're in charge of this computer and all. They do it but it's never the same quality. Maybe they are paid for it or asked to do it. But when a man has a burden and nobody's asked him, he's just 1:09:28 has a burden on his own. And you see he told you for example some Tamil editions and all that 13th edition. And we pay from from CFC Bangalore, we pay only for the first edition. That's sold and the money that comes 1:09:47 back from that goes to second edition. The money that comes back from that goes to the third edition. And like that 30th edition, he's published 58 books and I want to tell you something. Never once in all these 35 years 1:10:03 has he written to us saying "Can you send us money for the next edition?" Not even once. God has honored his faith. I mean you try and do that for one book, leave alone 58 books. To take the responsibility to financially print 3,000 copies again and 1:10:23 again and again and to trust that God will somehow get these books sold that I'll be able to print the next edition year after year after year and then another book, another book, another book, another book. And it's there are many miracles behind the 1:10:40 scenes which he's never talked anything about. You know his father was a a rich businessman. And he's his only son. He's got some sisters. And he wanted his son to take over the business. And that's how it is in most businesses. 1:10:59 Father goes son go is goes to the son. And he could have lived a rich comfortable life, but the Lord called him. He could be a believer and still be a businessman. But God called him and said, "I can't be doing this work. God's called me to 1:11:14 serve him." And the father kicked him out of his house. He and his wife and I think he had a child as well. And they didn't know they didn't There's no place they could go to. They didn't know anybody. They found a beggar 1:11:32 who had a a little hut somewhere. Small little roadside or somewhere. He went and stayed with him that night because he was kicked out for serving the Lord. You know the 1:11:51 sacrifices some people go through to serve the Lord. Many people don't know. We have to esteem such servants of God very highly. I've always esteemed him very highly cuz I know a little bit of what it is to serve the Lord. 1:12:09 And uh I never had to see sleep in a beggar's hut like he did. My dear brothers and sisters, behind a lot of the work that goes on, the spread of the gospel, there are faithful brothers who's been who have been gripped 1:12:28 by the message of the new covenant. They may not be great preachers, but who've been so gripped by the message of the covenant in their personal life that they work behind the scenes. Most people sitting here don't even know his name. 1:12:46 I've never seen him. I hope today you'll learn to value this brother and see that God honors those who honor him. And if I had not asked him to testify here today, you probably have never heard of him till the judgment seat of Christ. 1:13:05 That behind a lot of the ministry of CFC and literature is a major part of CFC's ministry around the world. Have been people like this who sacrificed denied themselves, lived very simply. 1:13:26 I went to his house once. And I said, "Brother, can you let me see today's newspaper?" And he wouldn't get a he didn't get newspapers because it's expensive to buy a newspaper every every day. He had to go and borrow one from the 1:13:43 neighbor's house to help me to read it. He's not a rich man. He's lived very simply. Never asked anybody for money all these 35 years, trusted the Lord. And he doesn't have any other job. He's just trusted God to provide all his 1:13:58 needs. Many of us want to build the new covenant church and I'll tell you something. When Abraham offered up the very best to God on Mount Moriah, 1,000 years later, God told Solomon, 1:14:19 "Build the temple at that spot where Abraham offered up his son." You understand the principle behind it? My church is built by people who give their very best, not publicly, in secret. That's the first place in the Bible 1:14:40 where the word worship comes. You know, today we have praise and worship. It's a lot of nonsense. It's actually praise and thanksgiving. It's not worship. Worship is what Abraham did there. He told the servants, "I'm going up to 1:14:56 worship God." What was he going up to do? He was going up to the mountain in secret, with nobody watching. He was going to sacrifice the very best for God. That is worship. If in secret, nobody knows what you've done for the Lord, 1:15:13 nobody knows what you're doing in secret, you have offered the very best of everything for God, you sacrificed time, energy, you for the Lord, denied yourself. That is worship. And that is where the church is 1:15:33 built. And God sees in secret. The theory of the new covenant, so many of us can explain. This is the old covenant, this is the new covenant, we can explain the differences and all. It's quite another thing to worship God and to build his church. 1:15:48 It's altogether different. That is why, you know, one reason I told you, don't criticize Pentecostal pastors and all like I do. Because you have never in your life given up your job and trusted God for your needs. 1:16:09 Some of those Pentecostal pastors have done that. They may have some wrong doctrines. And uh but sometime in their life, they gave up their job to serve the Lord full-time. And maybe they were led astray, but you have no right to criticize them because 1:16:27 you've never done what he did. I can criticize them because I've done I can tell them I did what you did. I gave up everything. When I left my job in the Navy, I gave up a very high salary and I took all my life savings 1:16:39 and gave it away for God's work and emptied my bank account and came out to serve the Lord. Now, I've gone through struggle. For years I had to live with my wife in my parents' home because we didn't have money to rent a house. And I I can tell 1:16:53 those pastors, I can correct you. I can speak to you because I've been through what you've been through. But most of you have not. So, please don't criticize the Pentecostal pastors. Judge yourself. And I think Ratnakumar can because he's 1:17:07 done it. There are very few who can do it. Ian can. He's done it. There are very few who can do it. So, the rest of us should don't go into that realm. Speak on other things. It's very important to remember these things, brothers. We can speak only 1:17:21 about that which we have gone through. So, if I limit my ministry to my life, we'll build wonderful churches. It's a great danger to go beyond our life to speak about things which are beyond our life. Yeah, anyway, there's one thing I 1:17:39 decided I said God's work done in God's way is a great book. Please give it out to every pastor. Now, I said don't give it to the pastors. Like uh Ratnakumar said, I got light on it. They're already set in their ways. Give 1:17:54 it to the other young people who can be saved from going in the wrong path. Those are the people who need to hear it. I believe that you it's one way of ministry that you can have is take those two books. And the reason why we put 1:18:09 congregation club in the church for just 20 rupees is that you can get number of copies and pass it on to young people to be gripped. People your friends who are sitting in clubs, who are sitting in congregations. Let them read it. You may 1:18:22 save some of them from uh that old wineskin. It's just It's such a cheap little book. They can read it in one day. It's a very, very important book, I believe, that has come for this time. And you know, Santosh himself published it 1:18:37 after he went through this crisis in his own church where he discovered congregation members and club members and finally now he's discovered church members. So, it's come out of his own experience. And so, I want to encourage you to take 1:18:51 those those two books like brother Ratnakumar said these latest books of ours on Through the Bible and Hear O My Sons and God's work done in God's way and the congregation and the club and the church is almost like the summit of our literature ministry. 1:19:09 The the result of all these 43 years it's not just me. I mean, I've learned a lot of things my fellowship with every brother is a joint work of the church. Even though I may be the one writing it and he may be the one translating it. 1:19:22 It's the work of what we have learned through the years in the church. So, let's use the literature ministry to spread the word. We spend so much on 20 rupees on a birthday card. 20 rupees on a book will do a lot more benefit to some people. 1:19:39 Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we thank you for our dear brother Ratnakumar and we pray that you'll mightily anoint him and support him in this literature ministry. And bring forth a lot of fruit from it in the years to come. We thank you for 1:19:56 all his sacrifices. Bless his wife and bless his family. Reward them greatly for their labors. Most of which are in secret, much of which we still don't know. And Lord, help all of us to be faithful in our secret hidden life. 1:20:13 Not to foolishly have high thoughts about ourselves as if we know so much or we are doing so much. We are humbled when we meet men and we meet them and we discover we have sacrificed nothing. Help us, Lord, we pray each one. 1:20:33 Bless the rest of today, we pray in Jesus' name. Amen.
